by JovialJovian 2 years ago, Post Upvote 1. Obeka, Brute Chronologist. Magic: The Gathering. Similar Deck Space Card Recommendations Commander Recommendations. This kind of ability goes on the stack after it triggers (C.R. Thanks genius for the link. I figured since the tournament rules stated that the word action could essentially be substituted for choice when resolving loops it would also apply here. by Muffins1001 1 year ago, Post Act of Treason, Giant Growth, Crew (Smuggler's Copter), etc will all end on the cleanup step of the current turn. The game advances through the lowest number of iterations chosen and the player who chose that number receives priority. Articles and comments are user-submitted and do not represent official endorsements of this site. If the turn ends with Obeka (or Sundial of the Infinite) while the ability is still on the stack, that ability will be exiled (C.R. The End Phase consists of two steps, the End Step and the Cleanup Step.The End Step doesn't really do much, it basically exists so that triggers looking for it can trigger and gives players a chance to do stuff before the turn ends.The Cleanup Step on the other hand does a lot. by LoneEmberFTW, New Lord He occupies a happy place in my Obeka, Brute Chronologist deck. There are some good resources to show the difference between what goes on the stack and what doesnt with end of turn effects but I dont have them on hand currently and you do have the correct understanding of what effects go on the stacks and what doesnt. : The player whose turn it is may end the turn. 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If Obeka's ability is used to end the turn on the turn when nabber's effect ends does obeka's controller keep control of the artifact, or does it go back to the original controller? - from the comprehensive rules. For the cards she plays nicely with, you generally need to allow the trigger to be put on the stack first in order to permanently delete it. Here is how it would work. EDH decks and themes I'm currently playing! <i>(Exile all spells and abilities from the stack. Commander protection is major in this deck, as are ways to untap your commander (because Blue says sleepy sleepy). I'm sure no one else is too surprised though . I don't believe this means that they then have to choose differently, just that you shortcut to their xth choice. This doesnt work the way you want it to. We are mainly confused about at the next end step and until end of turn effects. 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Opponents upkeep, spell is resolving, whatever. Edit: adding comprehensive rules reference. If I understand, the Thawing Glaciers cleanup-step trigger reestablishes priority. Opponent says no. Kougaiji38, you seem to have some misconceptions. Feeds | Effects that end 'at end of turn' and effects that end at the beginning of an end step. planning on building an Obeka, Brute Chronologist commander deck, but first i want to see how her turn ending ability interacts with other cards:. The player whose turn it is discards down to their maximum hand size. [[Obeka, Brute Chronologist]]; [[Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker]]. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. Rince and repeat for each opponent, effectively only giving them untap and upkeep steps until an answer is found, which might be hard without a draw step. As you've got access to Blue, there are a few non-Rakdos tricks you can use, the most hilarious I know of is Mass Diminish, note that it lasts until your next turn and have a good laugh. The way I understand it is the term "end of turn" is something that triggers every turn. After looking into the rules surrounding loops and using the best of my judgely knowledge, it does appear to work, but I can't find any specific mentions of the situation on oracle rulings, or threads of the interaction in general, which seemed odd to me, considering the strangeness of this interaction. Commander protection is major in this deck, as are ways to untap your commander (because Blue says sleepy sleepy). I wanted to ask - when you say for Delina: Don't you mean "At the end of next combat."? You might get away with adding 2 mana ramp, but I'd still aim for at least 36 lands (or MDFCs that count as a land, you probably already have the best two MDFCs in those colours, but people also run Malakir Rebirth If I put a +1/+1 counter on a creature that has a -1/- Can i exile my commander from the graveyard into the Press J to jump to the feed. : The player whose turn it is may end the turn. So, if I may ask, say I want to Final Fortune for an extra turn but also get bonus mana from Thawing Glaciers during that extra turn. Reanimation is one of the most popular themes in the entire Magic: The Gathering Commander format. RULINGS. Ignore EoT black discard/life loss effects. It has Tap: The player whose turn it is may end the turn. If you want to completely negate an end step trigger you can wait until it is put on the stack, and then end the turn in response. Before you even reach the "I am demonstrating a loop" statement you're attempting to repeat the board state already, or your loop hasn't resolved a single "NO" response yet. ._2a172ppKObqWfRHr8eWBKV{-ms-flex-negative:0;flex-shrink:0;margin-right:8px}._39-woRduNuowN7G4JTW4I8{margin-top:12px}._136QdRzXkGKNtSQ-h1fUru{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;margin:8px 0;width:100%}.r51dfG6q3N-4exmkjHQg_{font-size:10px;font-weight:700;letter-spacing:.5px;line-height:12px;text-transform:uppercase;-ms-flex-pack:justify;justify-content:space-between;-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center}.r51dfG6q3N-4exmkjHQg_,._2BnLYNBALzjH6p_ollJ-RF{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex}._2BnLYNBALzjH6p_ollJ-RF{margin-left:auto}._1-25VxiIsZFVU88qFh-T8p{padding:0}._2nxyf8XcTi2UZsUInEAcPs._2nxyf8XcTi2UZsUInEAcPs{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-widgetColors-sidebarWidgetTextColor)} This site is unaffiliated. If anyone has any information on this and can help us out, it would be much appreciated. Take extra turns with blue/red for three and just say no after that. by Cobara86, Time after Time Ive done a lot of reading and keep getting conflicting information. Thus, you can't use Obeka (or Sundial of the Infinite) to keep "until end of turn" or "this turn" effects running after the current turn is over. 513.1a].) The active player, you, must choose a different action. 603.7). EDIT (Sep. 24, 2022): Remove a rule citation. Help | Otherwise, priority would not pass to all players during a cleanup step, and there would be no need for a second end-the-turn effect? It's amazing. Average Deckbox Price. by Astroburrito, Kess Wizzards 11/10/2020. The rules manager confirmed this doesn't work the way I'd like it too https://mobile.twitter.com/WotC_Matt/status/1365372480412471296 interesting that they don't consider choices independent actions. Necromantic Selection not only clears the field, it also gives you back the best thing, this is extra juicy if you use some sort of Indestructible creature(s) that won't die. Obeka has been the hardest nut for me to crack deck wise. It cant include conditional actions, where the outcome of a game event determines the next action a player takes. If you use Obeka with Act, you still give the creature back. This includes spells and abilities . Doesn't work at all. Contact | As you will be the next player with extra turns it means that the. This means that the control changing effect will still end and the artifact will revert to its previous controller. There are two effects to look out for here. So you would then need to make a choice to not activate Obeka? before the end step, the turn will move to the cleanup step (skipping any phases and steps in between, including end steps) (C.R. How long can I stop the game like this, and are there any penalties I would suffer under the rules? The active player is the player whose turn it is. 702.116a]) expresses a delayed triggered ability referring to the beginning of the next end of combat step (C.R. Card Kingdom $624 - 564. All combos are rules exploits in one way or another, this one is just more original. Playtest v1. Rule juggling is fun but you're overlooking other rules. Steal shit, don't give it back. Obeka, Brute Chronologist is a commander that can be built around theft, extra turns or rez strategies. It would be the active player not the one who started the loop. ._1sDtEhccxFpHDn2RUhxmSq{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:400;line-height:18px;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-flow:row nowrap;flex-flow:row nowrap}._1d4NeAxWOiy0JPz7aXRI64{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText)}.icon._3tMM22A0evCEmrIk-8z4zO{margin:-2px 8px 0 0} I love commander a lot, but man the prices get me down. Abilities that say "at the beginning of the next end step" (or any other ability that says "at", "whenever", or "when") express triggered abilities, and almost all those triggered abilities go on the stack (including all of them that say "at"). Is "Deflecting Swat" free if my commander is an enchantment? Card Kingdom price: $0.00. Flip, Spear Spewer, and Thermo-Alchemist.Some maybe cards include Angrath, Captain of Chaos, and Cryptolith Fragment Terms of Use | I really need more way to get haste into my deck and he seems like a pretty good add that can help cheat big dude into play that meet his restriction. Like you, I have wanted to build around this card since I first saw it, but never as the commander. 'end step' effect: Hate Mirage. by Maelk. It also has the active player discard down to hand size if they're over their hand size limit. I just realized that your Avatar "Kaho, Minamo Historian" goes infinite for 6 mana with Finale Fortune o.O, Wish we could find room for Glorious End as well. $0.24. The Commander's Quarters is your Magic the Gathering source that helps you Command Your Budget! Then I talk about the interaction with extra turn cards in the "Extra turns" section. Also "in turn order" doesn't necessarily mean "starting with the active player". Active player is distinct from priority. Should you stop buying MtG products? The opponent can't choose more No than you can choose Untap. One thing to note about the clean up step here, from gatherer: If any triggered abilities do trigger during this process, theyre put onto the stack during the cleanup step. If the trigger was a delayed trigger, the ones typically worded "at the beginning of the/your next end step", they only get to trigger once and they did trigger so won't trigger again. That way the trigger has gone off and will not trigger again at a later end step. Since there don't seem to be any follow-ups or corrections to be made, I've chosen one to mark as the "Accepted answer" so that this topic can move out of the list of unanswered questions. Obeka, Brute Chronologist. Jesper Ejsing. Does ending the turn at end of combat delay the Final Fortune trigger until my next turn's end step, or does ending the turn with Obeka during combat immediately put any and all end of turn triggers on the stack and I need to find another way to end the turn before those resolve and I lose the game? Now, if the End Step began, all those "beginning of the end step" triggers have triggered and are on the stack waiting to resolve.The interesting thing is that if you end the turn with them waiting to resolve, the triggers get exiled and the game advances to the Cleanup Step. .s5ap8yh1b4ZfwxvHizW3f{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);padding-top:5px}.s5ap8yh1b4ZfwxvHizW3f._19JhaP1slDQqu2XgT3vVS0{color:#ea0027} But remember, the latest wording of a card is always given in its Oracle text (C.R. It's fun, it's a little weird, it's a cool card. by darrenhabib 2 years ago, Post TappedOut.js Blog Widget, ETB - Create one ore two tokens (Obeka, Kiki-Jiki, Phyrexian Dreadnought & Minamo, School at Water's Edge), Obeka's Ability and "At the end of YOUR turn" actions, Feldon of the Third Path - Loran's Smile (v1.4). This sequence may be a non-repetitive series of choices, a loop that repeats a specified number of times, multiple loops, or nested loops, and may even cross multiple turns. ]), Made possible by our patrons, phpBB, Scryfall, and Others. 603.2). Obeka, Brute Chronologist "brute" forcing your opponents to end their turns with loops After commander legends I made an Obeka EDH list. Add to Cart 1; $0.32 . Visions of Duplicity can create some chaos with it's two casts, Cultural Exchange is obscene if someone else has better creatures. Obeka Ruling Hey all, my friend recently built an Obeka, Brute Chronologist deck and we've been struggling to understand the ruling. Magic the Gathering, FNM is TM and copyright Wizards of the Coast, Inc, a subsidiary of Hasbro, Inc. All rights reserved. /*# sourceMappingURL=https://www.redditstatic.com/desktop2x/chunkCSS/TopicLinksContainer.3b33fc17a17cec1345d4_.css.map*/[[cardname]] or [[cardname|SET]] to call. (Note the lack of the word "next".) Obeka interaction question with cards that read "next end Obeka until end of turn vs at next end step. This will allow you to delay the trigger by a turn. A few to consider removing (I may be missing why you have them in, so user discretion is advised or something): Archive Trap, Outpost Siege, Palace Siege, Ponder, Preordain, Haunting Echoes, Cruel Ultimatum (this seems insanely hard to cast, and hits only 1 player, unless you can copy it I'd run Captive Audience if I want to hose one player hard), Cranial Extraction, Cormela, Glamour Thief, Kess, Dissident Mage, Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger, Lobber Crew, Loyal Subordinate, Nekusar, the Mindrazer, Obeka, Brute Chronologist, Phenax, God of Deception, Runo Stromkirk Which is why "the next end step" works, because when your opponent ends their turn its technically the turn after the "next end of turn" and doesn't trigger. This isn't even a real thing. It was enjoyable to learn the true back story behind Feldon. 719.1d; see also C.R. Bident of Thassa is glorious if you want both of it's effects, forcing people to attack is incredibly mean, and this doesn't require you to run a weenie like Goblin Diplomats, but that's also a fun card fwiw. by LordsofChaos115, Sedris, Grave Defiler. 719.1d; see also C.R. This can be found in the rulings on gatherer. (Exile all spells and abilities from the stack. Should I enter the end phase, then use Obeka to exile the "you lose the game" ability, then during the cleanup step Thawing Glaciers would trigger, and I would need to either use a Sundial of the Infinite, or untap Obeka with a spell or ability and use her ability again? 1 available @ $0.47 . Delina, Wild Mage has an effect that creates a token with an ordinary triggered ability, which says "Exile this creature at end of combat" at the time of this writing. 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