(2Pe 3:15) and reckon the patience of our Master as deliverance, as also our beloved brother Shaul wrote to you, according to the wisdom given to him, However, once you see the very truth that can set you free, absolutely choose itonly hold on, because you are in for the ride of a lifetime, literally! One of the most misunderstood ideas about the Hebrew Roots movement is the lack of love. The plan is literally revealed on every page; every word has intricate purpose and meaning. God has no intention of deceiving his creation only Satan and his minion deceive and will deceived men into thinking they are doing the work of God until Satan is bound for a 1000 yrs. And its not a matter of what feels good, as in, I get to do what *I* like. HE DOES NOT CHANGE!!! 27 For all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. My name is Lisa and I would not like to be called anything else but the name I was given at birth. 1. of matters of duty: to perform, execute If Christianity is the way, why are over 2/3 of believers walking away from God and why is divorce and disease in Church on par with the world? Follow Leah, dont follow THE Creator To have HIM in your heart REQUIRES having Torah in your heart Sin is violation OF THE LAW (1 John). Do you know why Yahusha spoke in parables? And I have other sheep that are not of this fold. Please understand that I am not seeking right or wrong between the two of us. Then contact 119 ministries. As I have read your comments, Im very confused about your responses. HERESY OF 119 MINISTRIES February 27, 2013 By pastormikehoggard A few of the heresies of 119 Ministries. Remember, the Spirit of God (Ruach Elohim) moved upon the face of the waters (KJV). There does however remain there can be only one interpretation. Jesus New Covenant blood is the blood of our Salvation dear Sister..Its Better, New and not like the covenant our Father made with Moses as Jesus blood cleanes all sin! Words have power. WHEN has fulfilled ever been a synonym for abolished? Be you. Because they test everything to scripture, not manmade doctrine and traditions. All the nations will come to the mountain of the Lord. 119 has key teachings that started making since after several yeas of study. I am talking about the God of Abraham Issac and Jacob who is the Creator of the universe and much more. I have honestly not kept them. Sean, what do you think of this teaching? Rabbis & scholars missed who Jesus was the first time around. Are you speaking life with yours? In this respect, 119 Ministries still has a leg to stand on while youre kicking them in the shin. God made it possible for that northern kingdom to be restored to their original betrothal covenant. It was preached from the pulpit a few weeks ago. And now that the Seed has come, we are no longer under the custody or the tutor. And while I applaud 119 Ministries for their teachings, I think that we should all continue to follow their wise advice and test everything they say against the backdrop of Scripture, just as the Bereans did when they listed to Rav Shaul (Apostle Paul) preaching the Gospel of the Kingdom in the towns that he and Luke visited. ). and he concludes that whole talk with 48 Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect. To take a view that somehow the Church Fathers were teaching to remove all things Jewish from a way of life would be a serious error and leads to a path of replacement theology. Nowhere did I say gentiles were not included. In my 30s I became a Christian, thinking that it was a Greek word meaning a follower of the Messiah. Certainly, Abraham followed certain laws / instructions given by his fathers. What is the context of that again? Well, in the winter of 2007 I was visited at 2AM by the Spirit of YHVH. . Just because the criminals record is wiped clean, does not mean he can now go break the law all he wants. to overthrow Countless references and even rebuked a synagogue from the book of Isaiah and rebuked the pharisees and Sadducees while referencing Exodus and Leviticus. . Turn to the Bread of life Himself and He will fill you with His Holy Soirit of grace!!!! When you say, Torah is a way of life. What do you mean? The Hebrew Roots Movement is nothing more than Gods way of preparing my people to shed their own misgivings about the Good News of Yeshua the Messiah, our Lord, our Savior, our Savior and part of the Godhead. Reformed Baptist, Sanctified Pentecoatal, Redeemed Hebrew, Born again believer in the liberating power of the name of Jesus, Fearer or the Almighty one true God. I would suppose that those of the HR understanding would say that because of the love of God , we demonstrate that love by the keeping of the law . But its only going to help someone who is wanting to see what Scripture itself says. If your seriously having issues wanting to obey YHWY, I doubt your problems are with 119 ministries. I pray the Spirit soften your heart (and readers) and show you Truth inspite of the majoritys error. " Jimmie Quinn on December 15, 2013 at 5:23 pm said: I would like the address of tis ministry so I can donate by check. make sure you don't hear these dreaded words yourself! (LogOut/ Also the Greek borrowing the Alef-Bet and core structures in root etymology. Although the Torah was given at Sinai, it was given so it could be written down. Just the opposite, they have demonstrated time and again, through the scriptures, that following the Law is simply the response after being saved by grace. If a storm comes its the rules that keep the storm at bay. Thats it Test Everything. Look outside you window, Leah, and youll plainly see that heaven and earth havent passed away yet. If left strictly to others we do what men want us to do. I and some other pastors are working on a apologetic ministry type reprove and seeking any and every bit of information we can to answer to this false doctrine and heretical teaching as we can. Jews have ALWAYS been part of Israel! Regrettably, many Christians have failed to heed the wisdom that Rav Shaul received from the Holy Spirit (Ruach HaKodesh in Hebrew) when he wrote the following: 3 However, to those of you who are Gentiles I say this: since I myself am an emissary sent to the Gentiles, I make known the importance of my work 14 in the hope that somehow I may provoke some of my own people to jealousy and save some of them! Another commenter yesterday respectfully asked me to read a certain book and refute it if I could. We believe our Messiah (Jesus/Yeshua) taught the Torah and obeyed it perfectly. Are you saying works are pointless? This so-called Hebrew roots movement has been around since the beginning bc it is all Hebrew, not Roman/Greek. They ARE LIMITED in eyesalve/ so are blind and barren Fully preaching or teaching is perhaps acceptable as a translation, but it is woefully shallow if one thinks about Christs purpose. God Himself declares the timing and intention of the new covenant. This gift was given as payment for a system which used to require me to be put to death if I should sin! I trust you will accept my comments with the same love in which they are being given. In fact, our atheist friends were once Christians but rejected the church because they have nothing different to offer. 2,376 talking about this. I pray there will be no more bickering over opinions here. And not all of it applies to everyone anyways. [g] 29 Think how much worse will be the punishment deserved by someone who has trampled underfoot the Son of God; who has treated as something common the blood of the covenant[h] which made him holy; and who has insulted the Spirit, giver of Gods grace! florida sea level rise map 2030 8; lee hendrie footballer wife 1; Yehoshua, Iesous, Jesus, Christos, Messiah, Christ) Who is this Yahusha you follow? I think that Natan is telling the truth what he experienced. We bow to Him and kneel in His presence. Again, I have watched dozens of their videos and I never seem them preach anything that cant be proven by scripture, other than teachings they give based on their own opinions (such as their series on Time), which they clearly tell the viewer at the start of the series that it is a teaching they are still studying and proving, and that their opinions may change as their study goes on. I appreciate that 119 Ministries provides transcripts. verse 13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree: what we are no longer under is THE CURSE OF THE LAW!!! That means, unarguably, that the moon determines the weekly sabbath, not a manmade Roman calendar invented AFTER the life, death and resurrection of Yahushua. Im thankful you are seeking to understand where your friends are walking & I will pray for God to give you wisdom in discerning the truth. I do not follow the dangerous teachings of Judaism either or the blasphemous teachings of the Talmud. You sound arrogant and demeaning all at the same time in your above speech and I take issue with it. The adversary is doing well at the divide and conquer tactic especially with all those denominations and it is grievous. I did call, and the money wasnt there! Because once you start ripping out these pages, you will continually find things that cramp your personal lifestyle. Like Priscilla and Aquila, my Messianic Jewish wife and I minister from a home church in Italy, on the front lines in the battle against the sin of idolatry, right in the Vaticans backyard. Im not sure why you believe that a proper understanding can only come through knowledge of Hebrew & Jewish tradition. I believe thats the role of the Holy Spirit as I read actual Scripture. Thanks . He is prefacing the people with an important message I have not come to abolish the law and the prophets so lets consider the following option of Pleroo but to properly teach you or let me put it this way (me speaking) to fill up the holes in your understanding i.e. Im curious as to your name and this book you talk about, Id really like to read more of your thoughts! and it being written down would serve all of us better. Some will make the analogy that we are pouring out an ointment to Jesus but if I do the truth ..Jesus did not need a new easter dress nor an easter basket , etc. Not to sound like Judas but couldnt truly that money have gone to the poor ? It has to be, otherwise we have all been deceived and Psalm 119 was not inspired by the Holy Spirit. More than once, I have addressed them, both privately and publicly. Does not scripture state where there is no law the is no sin? My only aim is to discern truth in the presentation of the gospel of Jesus Christ and avoid false teaching. He was attempting to get Gods first chosen people to THINK about their need for a Savior.The Torah was fulfilled when Jesus presented His new covenant blood in the heavenly sanctuary for eternal redemption Was she in submission to us? These are consecration issues, matters of the heart. The real travesty is not being open to the Spirits direction regarding the Word and claiming a superior understanding of Scripture without properly or sufficiently citing scripture, Hebrew and Greek definitions, proper context, etc. Our video on Lev. I will check out Dr Michael Brown. They demonstrate their love and trusting faith of God by striving to be obedient. Ive run out of time and so am unable to address other points made. Jews live by trusting faith in the wisdom of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. We decided to do everything scripture told us to do and when something changed, THEN and only then would we. Who was the first covenant given to? Read it 10 times and God will grant you true Biblical revelation. Its important that men understand women are looking for a fathers love and not get screwed. Faith in God of course but we have a better covenant for He has given us a new heart and it has come from Him He did it . What Moses preached in the wilderness was the good news that God would cause Israel to be scattered and Judah would then be scattered but her would provide a way to reconcile his people, not replace them. 39 But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop them; you might even find yourselves fighting God!. ALL THINGS including following Gods instructions for our best life now (not for tripping us up) Hes the original author of that idea. For they have no business in the countryside (others have different spellings and pronunciations for his name, same as for the Father, Yahuah). ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS DEPEND ALL THE LAW AND THE PROPHETS. In other words ALL of the Law encompasses these two. I am not of Jewish heritage or seminary trained. no one in their proper mind will say its ok to murder because you are covered by grace This is an obvious commandment, no one would say it is ok now to have your way with others you are not married to These are easy And are commonly part of weekly sermons across the country, These are often referred to as moral laws and of course we keep these! This is just a very cursory glimpse of just how much Jesus came for the whole human race, Jews for sure and Gentiles also for sure. I am also glad to hear of more brother/sisters are seeking understanding the nature of Yah and his teachings of days including the one he blessed during creation (Sabbath). Hmmm. However, we do not have a location that is open to visitors. News Flash, the Greeks and the Romans worshiped false gods (Satan, his fallen angels, and demons). I dont know about you, but I dont relish the idea of living in a house with no roof, especially when its raining or snowing outside. Cults have ways that they recruit people into their philosophy/ideology, making them members of such groups. Full disclosure: I do the same at times. Who was the New Covenant made with? This is what I am talking about. Thats the only set of Scriptures Jesus and his disciples taught from or about. To do the commandments of the Father. The Holy Spirit given on Pentecost, the comforter which will teach you all things, we love God because he first loved us, we want to be obedient to his instructions (torah) because that shows God we want to do things HIS way not ours. I am requesting that people STOP doing three things: 1) Please stop throwing around the word CULT for anything that is not traditional Christianity. ALL. Jesus Himself IS our new covenant Torah as we walk in His Holy Spirit of grace!!! to fill to the full I do not question that God intended His entire Word (biblical scripture) to be understood and obeyed. I am not by any means an ecumenicismist but I also am wary of any group . There are several Rabbis that were Rabbinical trained in the same house as Paul (House of Hillel) that have come to the same conclusions recorded in the Talmud. Consider that Moses was righteous in the eyes of Elohim. Here is an excellent site which helped me in my understanding of this conflict.. http://www.logosapostolic.org/bible_study/RP208-1PaulObservedSabbathDay.htm#b1.33. to throw or prostrate oneself, throw oneself upon The old wine is NOT good enough for sin redrmption and Gods life flowing thru us to others; thru Christ in us!! In this passage, Paul is saying there is Law and there is faith: of which are you? First, the teaching creates doubt regarding the words of the Apostle Paul by asking, Does it really mean what many think it means? (Pg 1) Names of those who made the ultimate sacrifice in serving our nation. If it doesnt answer it for you maybe it will lead to studying. You are CHOOSING to dismiss that evidence based on a conspiracy theory. Lust after his wife? You search the scriptures because you think in them you have eternal life; and it is these that bear witness of me.? P.S.. I took your comment to be a misrepresentation of how you really felt. Matthew 5:17-19 Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. And the same word owlam is used for the feasts as we see in, And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to the LORD throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance FOR EVER., *note the word for ever is the Hebrew word owlam. this was the Covenant of Sinai. 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